Movies, Hope, Language, and the Rabbit Room

Posted on Wednesday 9 April 2008

For some reason, I have a hard time trying to explain my view on art to people who hold the same viewpoint I grew up with. It’s easy for me to get frustrated talking about art with someone who thinks Harry Potter is evil, or who doesn’t agree with Philippines 4:8 (“whatsoever things are true”) and wants all their movies to present a fake, saccharine, sanitized view of life, to be like animated Thomas Kinkade paintings. So I’m glad when guys like Andrew Peterson, a friend who comes from a similar background and with whom I’ve had this discussion several times, take time to try to explain their views to others.

Andrew wrote a post on the Rabbit Room two weeks ago about Once, one of my favorite movies of last year. Since it is an Irish movie, Andrew included a disclaimer about some of the language used that doesn’t have a negative connotation in Ireland but does in other cultures, letting people know they should pass on it if that is a hurdle for them. Most of the comments were in agreement, until one guy, who hasn’t watched Once, called everyone else out claiming that a movie that uses the “f word” couldn’t be “recommendable or beneficial” and that it was “certainly unbiblical”. Andrew responded with a really great post about language, He Said a Wordy Dird, that he stayed up until 3AM writing, a response that both articulated his beliefs (and mine) well and yet was sensitive to those who disagreed with him. Here are a couple excerpts:

First of all, I think there’s a difference between Cursing and Using Foul Language. We tend to lump them together, but they’re not the same, I don’t think. Cursing, at least in the Biblical sense, has more to do with wishing death and evil upon someone instead of life and goodness; it is meant as the opposite of blessing. According to two concordances, the word “curse” is used in the New Testament only nineteen times, and after a quick read of each case it looks to me like that’s the sense in which it’s used every time. It doesn’t have to do with the use of certain words that society deems foul, but with wishing evil on someone, by using the inherent power of words to hurt and not to heal. Like I said, I’m no exegetical guru, so if I’m reading this wrong, by all means let me know.

I think someone uttering and meaning the words “I hate you” is much more offensive than thirty nine casual uses of the F bomb. I’ll say that again. Words are the overflow of the heart, so words spoken in anger, hatred, and bitterness are far more damaging and dangerous than the flippant use of words that are thought of as dirty.

I made the disclaimer about the movie because I realize that we’re all at different stages on the journey. We all have unique baggage that we’re lugging around, and some things that you might not think twice about will send me up the wall like a cat in a dog pound. If I had watched this film when I was in Bible college, I would have been offended to my core. I know what it’s like to be sensitive to foul language, and I sympathize. I’m not writing this to convince you to not be offended. Let the Holy Spirit speak to you, seek counsel, be humble, love wisdom, and pray that I’ll do the same. I have come to know Christ much better over the fifteen years since my Bible college career began, and I find that I am much less worried about some things and am much more sensitive to others.

That post is now up to 89 comments, with a lot of great discussion taking place. Unfortunately, the author of the comment he was addressing from the first post, as well as a number of other commentors, look as if they just skimmed Andrew’s post to see that he still disagreed with them and didn’t consider any of his arguments. One of the best comments came from Jason Gray who gave one of the best summaries I’ve seen about the different reasons that people watch movies:

Another thought I had on this issue is the different ways that people experience entertainment. Going to movies as a form of escapism is different than going as a means of engagement to the mysteries of your own life. My wife and I, for instance, often watch movies with different goals in mind. She is very deep (and in a lot of ways smarter than me) and we love the same books and movies, but sometimes after a long day with the kids she just wants to unplug and enjoy a fun romantic comedy. On the other hand, I find it hard to relax and enjoy a romantic comedy. I feel like much of the tasks I do throughout the day make me feel disconnected from my inner life, and so when I watch a movie I want it to help me re-engage with my own life. I want it to remind me that stories are important, that maybe even my story is important. I want to see again that in the midst of the all that’s ugly in the world beauty can still flower in unexpected places. I want to cry, to feel, to be challenged to see the world differently. I want to be afflicted. I want to be moved.

Yes, yes, yes. Here is that last sentence again, if you skimmed over it: “I want it to remind me that stories are important, that maybe even my story is important. I want to see again that in the midst of the all that’s ugly in the world beauty can still flower in unexpected places. I want to cry, to feel, to be challenged to see the world differently. I want to be afflicted. I want to be moved.” I walked out of a movie recently after it had finished, a current blockbuster, with a knot in my stomach. I’ll be surprised if I see another movie this year that I hate as much. And I don’t know why I had such a strong reaction to it. I think it was because it was so pointless, especially since the trailer billed it as something more. None of the violence meant anything – it was all there just to entertain, par for the course for a “good action movie”. And I don’t want to waste time watching something like that. I want to “see again that in the midst of all that’s ugly in the world beauty can still flower in unexpected places”,to be reminded that “stories are important, that maybe even my story is important.”. That’s why some of my favorite movies last year were There Will Be Blood and No Country for Old Men, why I love Wings of Desire, A History of Violence, and Dogville.

Ron Block, another of the contributors to The Rabbit Room, followed up Andrew’s post with a post on Sin in Movies – Seeing the Heart of Art, that has also generated a good number of comments. So this post doesn’t get any longer, I’ll just give you the link with the encouragement to read it when you have some time. And if you haven’t added The Rabbit Room to your list of daily reading yet, believe me, it is time well spent.

3 Comments for 'Movies, Hope, Language, and the Rabbit Room'

  1.  
    Amy
    April 10, 2008 | 11:32 am
     

    Wow, I had no idea that thread got up to 89 comments!! Last I checked in it was around 46.
    I almost feel like I can’t engage in conversations like that. I do believe that there might be people who will be stretched and learn, but it exhausts me to argue over whether or not Christians should watch movies or tv with so called “bad stuff” in it when there are bigger problems to be faced. Like starving children.
    I agree with you about the power of story. Thanks for plucking out that quote from Jason Gray, it’s a good one. But admittedly, I like fluff as well! But fluff doesn’t usually make my list of favorites.

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    Marc
    April 13, 2008 | 2:56 pm
     

    Ok…I don’t know who you are, but getting in on the tale end of this convo. and trying to boost your own blog is pretty weak. If you want in the convo., get in. Don’t just stand on the sidelines and say “Yeah me too!”
    I am the “one guy, who hasn’t even watched Once.” You said I Called everyone out and that is a gross over-exaggeration. Unless if by saying I called everyone out you meant I spoke up and wrote what I believed, even if no one likes it or agrees. (By the way isn’t that what you do?) You don’t know what I read or didn’t read, so to suggest that I or other commenters just “skimmed” is pretty bold. I do not need to see a movie to determine if I believe that it is inappropraite, this is called ‘discernment’. I do not need to experience something in order to know if it is right or wrong. Seeing how you watched the movie you would know that we are not talking about 1 word, try 39 “f- words” And if you read the (my) comments, I cited a verse that no one challenged- Eph. 4:29 (you can look it up yourself). And do you know why no one challeneged? because no one can argue with scripture. You can argue with me, about what I think, but there is no arguing scripture. However, I see you see you read Rob Bell and if you run in those circles than I obviously will disagree with you. I am not into deconstructing the truth and doctrines of the Holy Scriptures. I am torn about actually posting this because you may think that I am validating you and you post which is not my intent but rather to help you represent the other side of this convo. since you apparently had no interest in that.

  3.  
    April 24, 2008 | 6:18 pm
     

    Marc, I don’t know why you think I’m trying to “boost my own blog”, but whatever. I was just pointing friends who read my blog to what another friend wrote, since he articulated my thoughts on the subject better than I could have. I didn’t jump in the conversation, because again, others were saying what I would have said, like Jason Gray. And I didn’t have time to waste that week.

    So you did read it? I’m sorry, I guess I just assumed that if you had, you would have, oh, I don’t know, maybe interacted with something Andrew wrote. For instance, I thought Andrew gave a pretty damn good exegesis of the scriptural passages dealing with language. Since he is wrong (according to you) why didn’t you correct him? Because “no one can argue with scripture?”

    I think I’ll go listen to Derek Webb’s song Balled in Plain Red. “Truth without context, my favorite of all my crimes.” – what a great line.

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